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Introductory audio: Liens, levies, wage garnishments, back tax debts of all kinds.  If you’re facing any of these tax debt problems, stay tuned for the next 30 minutes.  This is the Levy Tax Help Show presented by Levy and Associated of Delray Beach, tax resolution specialists.  Call Levy and Associated 24-hours a day, seven days a week with all of your civil tax questions, 1-800-TAX-LEVY, that’s 1-800-829-5389.  Now, the Levy Tax Help Show.

 

Lawrence: Good morning, South Florida, and welcome once again to the Levy Tax Help Show.  Before we start off the show officially we would like to say that everyone in the Levy Office is thinking of those impacted by the tragic events this week in South Florida.  Everyone in the Levy Office sends their prayers and thoughts to all of those impacted by the horrific tragic events in Florida and we wish everyone well, and we have to move on with our lives and make sure that everyone in our life is safe.

Moving onto the show, here we go South Florida.  On today’s show, we have a very famous guy that used to work at the IRS for over thirty-years and we are going to start with him first because his name is Greg Mahaffey.  Greg Mahaffey, welcome to the show.

Greg: Glad to be here.

Lawrence: Greg, how long did you work at the IRS, by the way?

 Greg: Over thirty-two years.

Lawrence: Loving every minute of it.

Greg: Always.

Lawrence: You were a revenue officer for part of it and you were also in the ‘offer and compromise’ unit as well, correct?

Greg: Right.  There I used to deal in spouse cases and I was also in the ATAC unit, and I was also an employment tax examiner and an employment tax specialist on top of everything else.

Lawrence: Right.  So, we will skip the technicalities as far as what ATAC means, but you were a technical guy working in all collection elements – people who owed the IRS payroll taxes, people who owed the IRS income taxes, whatever it maybe you were working those cases in what we call civil tax controversy, correct?

Greg: Correct.

Lawrence: So, a good segway in, we have a guy live with me, sitting right here next to me who incidentally is not from Florida but happened to be in town and happened to want to pop in.  I said, “Come on in and here we are on the radio”.  So, let me introduce everyone.  Without saying his last name, he is a really nice client, a guy named Tim.  Tim, good morning and welcome to the Levy Tax Help Show.

Tim: Good morning.

Lawrence: Tim is a very soft-spoken man.  He has got his bodyguard that he brought with him and they are cracking up.  He is very soft-spoken, a man of few words, but the man of few words, we are going to use him as a good example.  By the way, thanks for coming on because it is really nice to let the listeners know that real human beings are behind these stories that we talk about oftentimes.  We have as many clients on as we can and the cool thing for the lack of a better term but this is that your case is still in its infancy, right?  We still don’t know the end result, but I can tell you because I am looking at an inbound pay-off calculator from literally a couple of weeks…no, not even a week ago but from the 7th, and not that you want to fall off your chair and hear this number, but I am going to tell you how much IRS says you owe as of March 9th officially for the thirty-day pay-off.  Can I give you the number?  Do you think you can take it okay?

Tim: Maybe.

Lawrence: You have got your buddy here in case you fall, and he will catch you to your right.  I will catch you to your left.

Tim: I’m ready.

Lawrence: $223,000.

Tim: I have got thirty-days?

Lawrence: Yes.  You just write IRS a check.  It would be okay.

Tim: Perfect.

Lawrence: No Problem?

Time: That is fine here.

Lawrence: So, here is a good example.  Greg we will talk about this as a case study.  It is not your file, but we will talk about it anyway.  There is a nice gentleman.  He owes the IRS and it goes back a while.  It goes back over a decade.

Tim: Correct.

Lawrence: And, just so the listeners can hear, what caused you to get into trouble with Uncle Sam.  In your own layman words.  You are in the telecommunications business, you are not in the tax business.  So, we are sitting around at a Dunkin’ Donuts having a cup of coffee and I said, “Hey, Tim.  What caused you to dig such a hole?”  What would your answer be?  As layman terms as you can give it to us and you can talk right into the mic.

Tim: The 9/41 bureau. 

Lawrence: Just being a small business owner, you just got behind the 8-ball?  Was it receivables, or what was it that you just never were able to get ahead, basically?

Tim: There was a receivable collection problem and I had to make a choice with making payroll or paying the taxes. 

Lawrence: You were in survival mode?

 Tim: Correct.

Lawrence: That survival mode is pretty common for us.  We see it quite a bit and besides the payroll tax you also have some income tax issues.

Tim: Correct.

Lawrence: Those years go back to, if I am looking at this right, 2009, 10, 11, 12, 13… I mean, you have owed consistently for all of the years.

Tim: Right.

Lawrence: When we reconvene, we will call it, because we got you into a payment plan at once, right?

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: Unfortunately, right, for you, at the time you didn’t qualify for an ‘offer and compromise’.  You were making too much money.  So, the IRS isn’t going to say, “Let’s make a deal”.  You are probably too young for let’s make a deal.  Do you remember that TV show?

Tim: I watched the reruns. 

Lawrence: Your buddy has too.  So, he is giving me the thumbs up, but you weren’t the ‘let’s make a deal guy’.  You made too much and so the best we could do was put you into a payment plan which is what we call ‘an installment agreement’.  Now, you were happy with it.  You were trucking along.  The skies were as sunny as they are in Florida today, but then what happened?  If you don’t stay current you end up defaulting out of that agreement, right?

Tim: Correct.

Lawrence: So, you got a default notice an you ended up owing, not a lot.  I mean, it is a lot, considering, but $10,000 – $11,000?

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: That was because you didn’t pay that and that trigged it to bounce out the payment plan that you were in and here we are now, again.

Greg, when you worked at the IRS for thirty-years, how many times did you see tax-payers fall off the wagon and they would just come back again and again, and again?  Was that a pretty common occurrence when you were at the IRS?

Greg: Definitely.  We could almost count the number of times on multiple hands and in the whole office, yes.  We had some of the same tax-payers over and over, and over and over for 10, 15, 20 years.  The old thing at the IRS is that old tax-payers never die, they just form new corporations.  They get new problems. 

Lawrence: Right, and now that you are in the private sector as a phenomenal power of attorney advocating and representing tax-payers all over the great USA, don’t you feel pretty good that you were actually…before we went on the air you were talking earlier this week about a file with ACS and a lien discharge.  It is a good feeling to be able to help someone, is that right?

Greg: Yes.  Definitely.  Now, that is what I tried to do when I was with the IRS, but not all IRS agents will take that position or that attitude.  Some think that their job is to punish people which is not supposed to be their job, but some take that to heart.  Anyway, I tried to help people then, and I especially try to help them now.  With the lien discharge, I just pulled off a miracle discharge from the IRS and the State of Michigan, getting both lien discharges with no consideration in less than one week.  It has to be a new record for anyone. 

Lawrence: Wow.  You were able to get an IRS lien discharged in a week?  I didn’t really know about that.

 Greg: Yes.

Lawrence: That is great.  I am impressed.

Greg: It just came through about 30-minutes ago on the fax machine here. 

Lawrence: That is fantastic.  That is incredible that you are able to achieve things like that because, let’s just be clear that Tim is hearing it.  You are eye-witnessing, Mr. Bodyguard over there is a witness too but it doesn’t always happen like that.  In Tim’s case, we don’t know.  We still are in the process and we have been transparent about it.  You have a difficult case because you have to prove to the IRS what you make, and part of the foundation that we talked about a few weeks ago, probably just after New Year, was the book-keeping, or, shall we say the lack of book-keeping.  The lack of guidance.  You just weren’t getting great advice from your ‘book-keeper’ and from your CPA.  Can you just elaborate on that so that people understand?  They were just doing more of what I will call ‘robotic’ functions.  They weren’t saying to ‘do this’, or ‘don’t do that’, ‘Why don’t you have this?’, or, ‘Why is there this?’, ‘Why is there a profit?’.  ‘Buy this vehicle and depreciate it’.  You just weren’t having that interaction, basically?

Tim: Yes.  There was no planning at all.  Toward the end of the year there was no guidance.

Lawrence: That is just crazy.

 Tim: Then, I get a big tax bill come Spring.

Lawrence: You know, there you go.  After you thought you were doing things the right way.  You made it an S-Corp, you formed the corporation, you were trying to do the right thing, but unfortunately because you had a lack of guidance…  You are in the telecommunications business.  You do stuff with wires, I assume, right?

Tim: Right.

Lawrence: Yes, and with me as a classic Jewish guy, I can’t change a light bulb.  Literally, I have to call an electrician.  So, you do what you do, and we do what we do, but you should be getting the guidance from the book-keeper.

Greg, when you were at the IRS, how many times did you say it?  I am going to blend this into a client that was in the office right here in Delray.  Literally, it was this week.  It was the Tuesday before Valentine’s Day on the 13th.  You saw that a lot though, when you were at the IRS, where a lot of tax-payers didn’t know what they looked like on paper and part of your job was to say to, like Tim, “Tim, what do you make and what do you spend?”  Well, he knows what he makes because he has a W2 and a pay cheque now, but his company may not have the best set of books.  Without having the best set of books, he really doesn’t know what he makes because ‘is there a profit or is there money left over?’.  Can he go and give his employees a little bit of extra raise?  Can he go and hire a secretary?  Should he go out and spend more money and advertise more?  He doesn’t know what his books look like.  Greg, when you were at the IRS, did you see that a lot with people who just didn’t know which end was up with their accounting?

Greg: All the time.  That is usually part of the major problem where they get into trouble.  They just don’t take the time and effort, or they don’t have the ability to keep careful books and records.  Such as, in construction, they may be the best person in the world at building stuff.  They can build the Taj Mahal and they can design wanders of Art, but they can’t handle book work.  They don’t know basic accounting and when they start blending personal with company monies, and then start co-mingling which is a big ‘no, no’ to do, then it gets even worse.  The next thing you know, if they have multiple entities, multiple corporations and they start co-mingling between all of those because they thought that they could get bigger and better, they get to be in the worst nightmare in the world though. 

Lawrence: Again, that is why I have got back to talking to Tim about the books.  Here is a guy.  You are hearing it.  This was just a perfect setup for today.  The client is live.  In fact, until before we went on the air, literally, I have talked to him on the phone and we have text.  We have talked on evening, we have talked at 06.30 AM, but if he was sitting next to me at, and I always say Dunkin’ Donuts, I don’t know what the hell he looks like because I have never met him.  He could have been bald.  I don’t know what he looks like but now you can put a name to the face.  Here, we have a client on the phone, although he is not your POA, but he used to work at the IRS and he was the guy.  You had him in your file.  You had a revenue officer that was assigned to your file, right?

Tim: Right.

Lawrence: If you remember, you had a local person.  That was what Greg was.  He was in Metro, Detroit for over thirty-years and, by the way, I always like to say it because I respect it in all sincerity, and I want to publicly say it, you were in the navy.  You were in the Gulf War, right?

Greg: Yes.  Back in 1991.  I was called up from the IRS revenue officer on the Friday and Monday morning I had the full sea bag at the reserve center ready to be shipped out.  Eight days later, I found myself off on the ship, off the coast of Kuwait City and working twenty-hours per day in the middle of the minefields and oil slicks. 

Lawrence: Wow.  Well, listen.  A. Thank you for your service to the country, and, B. We are glad that people like you exist out there to keep us safe and sound.  Whether you are in the military or at the IRS you have a job to do.  We have a job to do.  Tim doesn’t not want to pay.  Tim just needs to figure out what he looks like on paper so that his books make sense.  He is not a bad guy.  He is a good guy.   I have literally never met the guy until recently and I wasn’t actively involved in your file, quite frankly.  It was other people.  It was Danielle.  All of the credit really goes to Danielle.  I always love my staff.  You have talked to Danielle a number of times.  She is actually based out of this office, but again, for you it is a ‘phone a friend’ relationship.  You have never met her, but a really nice lady and she does everything that she can to try and help you out.  Now, we had a client walk in here on the 13th.  The day before Valentine’s Day.  In case my wife listens to the show, which once in a blue moon.  I hope I was a good husband.  I hope that I did the right things and ended up getting you at least the flowers.  Did you get the flowers?  I assume that you loved the flowers.  She doesn’t tell me the little things that you do in life that you really kind of appreciate these things.  Tim, being single, you don’t have that ‘wife thing’ going on.

Tim: Correct.  I got myself flowers.

Lawrence: That is great.  You probably felt good about it.  You are smiling about it, yes?

Tim: Yes.  It was a very nice feeling.

Lawrence: It was your birthday earlier.  So, you had a good birthday?

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: That is great.  So, the Valentine’s thing, to my wife, I love you.  If you are listening, I love my kids and I love my wife.  I always give that as a shout out, but yes.  It is a different world when you are married.  Greg, you are married with kids and grand-kids, right?

Greg: Yes.  I am going to be thirty-four years married to the same woman. 

Lawrence: Wow, Tim is almost out there with you.  He is about thirty-four days with the same girlfriend.  It is getting close.  (Laughter) I am not even sure if that is accurate, but we are not here to talk about our love lives, our marriages.  We are here to talk about what you do if you have an IRS tax problem.

The local phone number right here in Delray Beach is 561 865 7800, or toll free 800-tax-levy.

Yes, Levy really is my last name.  People always ask.  I don’t know if you ever asked.  ‘Boy, is that, that guy’s real last name?’  Yes, it is.  If you actually think about it, did you ever hear of senator Carl Levin, or anyone named Levine.  So, the Lev is the prefix for the Levite tribe which is a biblical, Israeli history back in the day.  So, you can have Levin, like senator Cark Levin, Levy, Levine, Levinson and then you have the whole other Roseanne, Rosenburg, right?  So, a little Jewish tribute here on a Saturday morning, but we are not here to talk about that.  We are here to talk about what you do if you have IRS tax problems and how do you get out of it.  At least, Tim, when you hired us, and I am just going to go back to…since you are here we will focus a little bit on you.  You hired us officially two-years ago.  It was actually March 2016.  Were you worried at the time?

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: You reached out for help.  We got you the deal that we could get you.  Not because we wanted that deal, not because you wanted that deal, but that is what you qualified for, unfortunately.  Everyone who calls always says, “Can you save me, what can you save me?”  We’ll talk about the person that came in the day before Valentine’s Day, but let’s talk about you for a second.  So, everyone always wants, and I think it as probably back then, but at the time you wanted a discount.  You wanted the IRS to knock something off, but it can’t be just because Tim is a good guy, or just because he has had a birthday that is in February.  It just has to be…it can’t be because you bought yourself flowers for Valentine’s Day.  There has got to be a reason why IRS would grant you penalty relief.  It can’t just be ‘just because’, and you didn’t qualify.

Tim: Correct.

Lawrence: Unfortunately, you had too much, and you were making too much at the time.  You just didn’t qualify.  That was the deal two years ago, but, at least didn’t we make you feel better so that you can sleep, focus on your job, focus on your loved ones whoever they may be.  Your family, certainly.  At least, we gave you the piece of mind.  You let us take care of this.  You have got to go out and live and you have got to go out and work, and you have to go out and do what you need to do, right?

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: That is what, I think, a lot of people don’t…how did you feel about it?

Tim: Very comfortable when the deal was done, and still comfortable with it.  That is why I came back here to find a different resolution.

 Lawrence: Right, and if things change is being not different, and I always use this example, then when someone gets divorced.  You haven’t been married, have you?

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: Oh, you were married, and divorced.

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: Okay.  You know the gig that child support and potentially about spouse support, right?  So, when you got divorced, this is what you made, and this is what she made.  A few years later, she (the ex-spouse), in this case ex-wife may come back and say, ‘I want another look-see.  What are you making?  Show me your tax returns because I want more in child support and I want more in this, and I want more in that’, and you have got to go back to court or go back to your divorce attorney and, if things change with the IRS you are not always locked into that deal.  If you have a material change of circumstance, your income has dropped.  There are options out there for you and you need to explore them.  Either way, your instalment agreement is defaulted, and you are starting from scratch again.  If your books weren’t right, or if your books weren’t explained to you in the right way, or if you had that lack of book-keeping and that lack of accounting, we see that, as Greg sees that.  He has been in the business longer than I have been in this business because he was a revenue officer.  Actually, he used to work with our office when he was a revenue officer.  He was always tough, but he was fair, and he was always reasonable, and he took a very practical approach which, I am not sure every IRS person does, but at least you felt good and we did our job two-years ago, right.

Tim: Yes.

Lawrence: We did the best we could do given the circumstances.  You are a nice guy.  I would say that most of our clients are pretty darn nice, to be honest with you, but you can’t always hit that home run.  You can’t always get the offer and compromise.  It is all going to be based upon the person’s financial condition as that is what is really going to dictate and drive that bus, quite frankly.  That is how that works.

Let me just jump back to this person who came in on the 13th.  A really nice family.  They couldn’t be any nicer and I say that because it happened to be a mother and a son in business together.   I actually told them to listen to the show, and if you are listening you know who I am talking about.  I really liked it because my father was part of my life.  I am an only child.  This gentleman was an only child and we really sort of clicked and hit it off.  I don’t know what is going to happen with that file, but it would be really nice to see that relationship of a family business that they have been around for a long, long time.  They are business partners, but it was still only child and mum.  I have got to tell you, we don’t know what is going to happen.  In that case, they had a visit by a local revenue officer.  Just like you did, way back when.  Did that person show up at your business or at your house, do you remember way back when?

Tim: Business.  He was very nice, and he was a little shocked because I told him that I was happy to see him. 

Lawrence: Well, people may be shocked that you bought yourself flowers on Valentine’s Day too, but again, the IRS is there to do a job.  They are not there to be mean and nasty, and rude and cold, and harsh.  They are there to do a job and unfortunately their job is tough sometimes.  So, the guy came in and said what?

Tim: That I owed some taxes and he served me with some papers and asked if I could come down and meet him in his office in downtown 

Lawrence: There you go.  At that point in time you reached out and found us, or online, or got a letter.  That’s how you reached out and found us?

Tim: Correct.

Lawrence: Right.  I am trying to look at some of these old notices from your file.  I am looking at some of your child support bills here and so forth.  I see the revenue officer right here, back in 2016.  It was April.  Almost two-years ago, to be specific.  Bloomington, there you go.  So, again, it should give you the piece of mind that you have people that are advocating.  Now that you have physically been able to meet some of the staff, you can see what goes on.  You probably feel even better now that you know that it is not just a voice on the other end of the phone, and that we are real human beings.  I talk about my wife.  I talk about my kids.  I talk about…I am a down to earth person.  Not everyone is going to have that offer and compromise.  Not everyone is going to always get the penalties wiped out.  It just isn’t going to happen, but the couple that came in couldn’t be any nicer.  When I say couple, it was a mother and a son.  They are just nice, down to earth people that got themselves, technically him and not the mum, into a bit of a jam, but we have got to dig them out of the hole.  So, they had, literally… This is how quick this happens, just like with you.  They had a revenue officer stop by, locally at their office right here in South Florida, and within hours they literally were in the office right here in Delray and they were as happy as can be when they left, knowing that they have a team on their side.  How it is going to turn out, we don’t know.  How your file is going to turn out, we don’t know, but if you have an IRS problem… Now, by the way, IRS is back in business.  Greg, that O-freeze is over.  How long were you…how many O-freezes?  I don’t remember a lot, to be honest with you.  An O-freeze that lasted for four months.  That is a long time, isn’t it?

 Greg: Yes.  Definitely, and it was only for part of the country.

 Lawrence: Yes.  So, Tim, since you are not in that, but when hurricane IRMA came through Florida the IRS put what is called an ‘O-freeze’.  The letter ‘O’ like Oscar.  Basically, it stopped all collection action from going on.  So, from when IRMA came through until literally a couple of weeks ago, January 31st, all of the IRS actions for collections.  My last name wasn’t being used.  Bank levies, wage levies.  No, nothing was going on.  As of February 1st, that light switch was flipped back on and they are back in action.  Now, what that means is that it is ‘game on’ and you have to make sure that you address collection matters.  Greg, you have had quite a lot going on for some of your files, besides the liens and so forth.  When you were working at the IRS, you were trying to help people, but when they weren’t listening you had no choice but to use my last name.  The funny part now is a guy with Levy now signs your pay cheque.  Imagine that one.  You never thought that would happen, did you?

Greg:  Yes.  Definitely not.

Lawrence: There you go, but I will tell you, and I told you before, you are a good guy with a great work ethic, and I think you try and you really have your heart and soul into it, and you are very passionate.  So, we are very fortunate that we have a very deep bench.  We have two former revenue officers.  Greg, who is on with us and a lady named Clair Coffee – like the coffee you drink.  She worked at the IRS too.  She was a revenue officer for twenty-years and then she rounded out her career for the past ten years as an offer and compromise specialist actually.  So, this week we were dealing with a client that owes over 1 million dollars.  We filed and offer and compromise.  Actually, Danielle, the POA who is working on your file, she filed it and originally one of the offer and compromise specialists that was working the file said they believed that it was an intentional delay of collection, which oftentimes IRS will think that you filed the offer and compromise just to buy time or stall.  It is really nonsense.  Especially, if it is a significant down payment.  You have to pay 20% down.  So, why would someone waste that money?  It just makes no sense.  The offer specialist was somewhat unwilling to speak.  You and I were having a normal conversation.  It is three ways.  We are talking, you are talking, Greg is talking, we are all communicating, but this offer, and compromise specialist was unwilling to help her or even listen.  So, unfortunately, the offer specialist said to Danielle, “Look, I am just going to return the offer”.  She said, “Oh no, you are not.  I am going to talk to your manager”.  She ended up talking to the group manager called the GM.  This was earlier this week, I think, on Monday.  Actually, it would have been the 12th, and the manager said, “You are right.  My offer specialist was wrong.  It is not an intentional delay of collection”.  Greg, do you remember right when hurricane IRMA came through, Danielle had another similar issue that was local, and you ended up having to get the GM involved and the territory manager involved because the revenue officer tried to write a 6/57 saying it was an intentional delay of collection?  Do you remember that file back in September or October?

Greg: Yes.  That was the most ridiculous thing because the tax-payer ended up putting up $40,000 down.  So, why would anyone waste $40,000 for only just a few months.  It was absolutely ludicrous. 

Lawrence: I will tell you, right now, we don’t have the final acceptance, but that gentleman owed about $600,000 and we are somewhere in the range of about $190,000 at 30 cents on the dollar.  Not bad, but he has got to be able to fund it and that is based upon someone’s equity in their house and so on.  But, there you go, from where the IRS literally 5 months ago said…The revenue officer, by the way, and what is frustrating is the way the system is setup as it gives the revenue officer the ability to almost become the gatekeeper of offer and compromises, which shouldn’t happen.

Now, Tim, in your file, you don’t have a revenue officer right now.  You are out there in what is called ‘ACS’.  You are just in-collection.  You don’t have anyone local on your file.  So, while you are there, and you can file something without it being closely scrutinized, it is not a bad option, but again, the power of attorney’s in our office, like Greg, like Danielle are the ones that will actually navigate through all of the steps in the process.

The phone number, I don’t give it out enough because we get to talking is: –

561 865 7800 locally, or toll free 800-tax-levy.

 Check us out on the web at Levytaxhelp.com.

It is tax season now and giving a shout out not only to the veterans like Greg, and again, thank you for your service in the navy, but to anyone in law enforcement and first-responders.  My son, last year, came up with a great concept to offer a discount for tax preparation if you are in the school system.  My son is now a freshman in college and he said, “Dad”.  I don’t know if I have told you this story, but he said, “Dad, I wanted to try and say thanks to all of my teachers from kindergarten all the way up.  Why don’t we offer a discount for the teachers?”  So, whether you are an administrator, a teacher, a janitor, or a bus driver.  Anything to do with the school system.  As opposed to going to the national chains, which I won’t even say their names, come to Levy Office.  Get your taxes done.  It is tax season.  We have the CPA’s, the EA’s, we have the staff accountants.  In fact, this week we just hired another tax preparer, another EPA.  Greg, you have been hanging with him for this week, right?

 Greg: Oh yes.

Lawrence: His claim to fame is a three-piece suit and a tie, and a vest.  This guy loves his vest.  I had to wear a tie growing up as a kid going to school, and not so much wearing ties but when I go on TV interviews I am more of a non-tie, open-collar type of look person.  As you can see, I have got ripped jeans on.  This is just more my style.  I would have worn a baseball hat, but, yes, that is my man there with his ball hat in the corner.  He has got the beach bar look going, rocking it.  Oh, you guys both have the same shirt on.  Look at that!  Shuckers!  Is that Vero Beach somewhere?

??: No, it is not. 

Oh, it is in…where you are from?

??: No.  It is from here in Florida, but it is not Vero.  Hutchinson Island. 

Lawrence: Well, there you go.  So, we pump out to Hutchinson, don’t we Jack?  We have got a lot of…how far do we go?  We go north all the way to where?  Past Vero?  Close to Vero, right.  There you go.  Tune in, or you can stream it in on I-heart Radio,  WAFTL, AM 850, big talk radio.

Anyhow, we are here to talk about what you do if you have an IRS tax problem is, as we come to the top of the hour and we have got about a minute left, I also wanted to say a big thank you to Tim for coming onto the show.  It is nice to have someone, you are a soft-spoken guy, but you are also a really talented guy in your industry, and I appreciate that you took the time to come onto the show.  It is incredible that people are so down to earth, and it is nice to finally put the name and the face together.  So, thanks for taking the time to come on.  We talked about your case.  Just to recap, we talked about another gentleman who came in that owed quite a bit to the IRS.  You just want to get help.  You just want to be able to sleep at night.  That is what you want to be able to do and you have the Levy team on your side to try and help.  We don’t have a magic wand.  We are not Harry Houdini.  We are not David Copperfield.  We can’t make this all go away with a ‘poof’ and a wave of a hand, but you have people that can help and make sure that you get the best deal and the right deal, and the fair deal.

Greg, thanks for all of your hard work.  Great job on those liens and discharges as you did a great job there.  Thanks for all you do and thanks for the dedications to the country, being in the military.  So, we really appreciate that, and if you have an IRS problem we are here to help you fix it.  If you haven’t filed your taxes in a few years, or like Tim you owe the IRS over $200,000.  He is not afraid to say it because it is the truth.  It is the truth.  It is out there but, at least, now that you know that you have a team, and you have been our client for a couple of years now, you at least can sleep better at night, enjoy your birthday, and hopefully you had a good Valentine’s Day buying yourself flowers.  I love that.  Well, thanks for coming on the show.  Greg, thanks for all you do.

Signing-off for now from the Levy Tax Help Show, we have got a nice guy named Tim who is a client that owes $220,000 and change, and he is going to get himself into the straight and narrow path of the IRS world.  Greg, thanks for all you do.  Thanks for your thirty-years at the government but thank you more importantly for being an incredible power of attorney, and of course, thank you again for your service to the country in the navy.  Signing-off for now, Lawrence Levy, and Tim in the house, along with the famous former IRS revenue officer, Greg Mahaffey.  Enjoy the rest of the weekend, South Florida.  Enjoy the Maori Boat Show.  If you are listening to this show, you probably won’t go to the boat show, but if you are, enjoy the show and the weather.  We will talk to you next week.  Take care South Florida.

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